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Shifting Out of Secrecy & Living Loudly with Nancy Gunter

October 07, 2025 • Tracy Spears • Episode 65

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For many people in my generation, living loudly and openly was a shift that could feel almost too big. In this episode of Shift Out Loud, I sit down with Nancy Gunter, the CEO of Gunter Training and an expert in helping workplaces manage clashes between employees of different generations, to talk about shifting out of secrecy.

In this conversation, Nancy and I discuss the intense challenges she experienced coming to terms with her sexuality in the 1980s and 1990s, the small but loud shifts that led her to live more openly in a slowly-changing world, and how she’s nurtured a beautiful 32-year relationship with her partner. We also talk about her incredible professional shifts, and how she uncovered her deep passion for designing and delivering trainings.

Ready to play bigger? Listen now to discover:

How a decades-old rumour about Nancy’s brother helped her come out to her parents in her 40s
The big generational differences that underlie current workplace tensions
How Positive Intelligence training changed Nancy’s life and sparked a career shift

Guest bio: Nancy is the CEO of Gunter Training and specializes in Positive Mental Fitness, Emotional Intelligence, and Generational Consulting. She has a Master’s Degree with an emphasis in Generational Studies and is a Gallup Certified Strengths Coach, a Positive Intelligence Coach, and a Speaker/Trainer. She enjoys all types of sports and participates in sprint, Olympic, and Half Ironman triathlons.

Timestamps:

01:41 Intro

02:39 Meet Nancy Gunter

04:13 Shift to extroversion

08:56 Discovering her sexuality

13:13 Shift to self-acceptance

17:51 Shift to training

21:47 Shift to living more openly

27:42 Coming out to family

35:20 Generational consulting

38:04 Baby boomers, work ethic & tech

42:29 Triathlons